Problems with NS and MX records

Hi everyone,

Earlier today (about 12 hours ago) I switched the NS records for my domain jakowicz.com to point at my Linode, Bluehost was the previous host.

I have also configured the MX records to now point at my Linode and created the mail user. Strangely I am able to send and receive emails. Because it seems my old host still has come control of the domain it seems.

My /var/log/mail.log doesn't get updated when I send or receive emails on this address, also these are the headers when I receive emails from simon@jakowicz.com

> Delivered-To: simon.jakowicz@gmail.com

Received: by 10.70.45.233 with SMTP id q9csp79760pdm; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT)

Received: from outbound-ss-565.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-565.hostmonster.com. [67.20.97.212]) by mx.google.com with SMTP id ad5si4925337pad.149.2014.09.05.09.04.58 for <simon.jakowicz@gmail.com>; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:04:58 -0700 (PDT)

Received: (qmail 21083 invoked by uid 0); 5 Sep 2014 16:04:58 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (67.20.127.201) by soproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2014 16:04:58 -0000

Received: from box945.bluehost.com ([69.195.124.145]) by CMOut01 with id nU4t1o01B38LLCt01U4wny; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:04:56 -0600

Received: from [81.107.210.31] (port=54871 helo=[192.168.0.13]) by box945.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <simon@jakowicz.com>) id 1XPw0M-00021o-FA for simon.jakowicz@gmail.com; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:04:54 -0600

X-Received: by 10.70.56.10 with SMTP id w10mr22777757pdp.135.1409933099043; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT)

Return-Path: <simon@jakowicz.com>

Received-Spf: none (google.com: simon@jakowicz.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=67.20.97.212;

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: simon@jakowicz.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=simon@jakowicz.com; dkim=neutral (no key for signature) header.i=@

X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=LbyvtFvi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=bK0cV3TGnrXVbK90YeSjwg==:117 a=bK0cV3TGnrXVbK90YeSjwg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=UbJnmqAYnIA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bij8VqAIAAAA:8 a=SfxxWJ-KmhsA:10 a=KNYLPHeYxgA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=26gCbA3ug1mLzSivkzcA:9 a=CjuIK1q8ugA:10 a=cnF12FvOHk0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=OnYRFgmMd4A:10 a=_qt1WsnCI-gA:10 a=OunM7NyS5BEA:10

Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jakowicz.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=Z5lvZNbPRGhC8sfF21vL4JTz3PjYd9Vk2LRiV3JVb8E=; b=zr8iYbKXkvXXYUvd+yTuCYfm6dMf2ysPcQQeF0IStl1QQtvYaIyzcrHUMcMEDXYgHb/c7lfGG3ca7irMSC9usGpIvi2svovWdGcbscnFFOXmqethsKxsH0VvXDRl4QBz;

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 (1878.6))

In-Reply-To: <A020A037-A74C-417E-84CC-1F960C572E58@gmail.com>

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Message-Id: <2A99D86D-E155-4AB5-8FC4-A156EDF94140@jakowicz.com>

References: <A020A037-A74C-417E-84CC-1F960C572E58@gmail.com>

X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6)

X-Identified-User: {1503:box945.bluehost.com:battlesi:jakowicz.com} {sentby:smtp auth 81.107.210.31 authed with simon@jakowicz.com}

And these are the headers when I sent emails to simon@jakowicz.com

> Delivered-To: simon.jakowicz@gmail.com

Received: by 10.70.45.233 with SMTP id q9csp79760pdm; Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT)

Received: from outbound-ss-565.hostmonster.com (outbound-ss-565.hostmonster.com. [67.20.97.212]) by mx.google.com with SMTP id ad5si4925337pad.149.2014.09.05.09.04.58 for <simon.jakowicz@gmail.com>; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:04:58 -0700 (PDT)

Received: (qmail 21083 invoked by uid 0); 5 Sep 2014 16:04:58 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (67.20.127.201) by soproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2014 16:04:58 -0000

Received: from box945.bluehost.com ([69.195.124.145]) by CMOut01 with id nU4t1o01B38LLCt01U4wny; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:04:56 -0600

Received: from [81.107.210.31] (port=54871 helo=[192.168.0.13]) by box945.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <simon@jakowicz.com>) id 1XPw0M-00021o-FA for simon.jakowicz@gmail.com; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:04:54 -0600

X-Received: by 10.70.56.10 with SMTP id w10mr22777757pdp.135.1409933099043; Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:04:59 -0700 (PDT)

Return-Path: <simon@jakowicz.com>

Received-Spf: none (google.com: simon@jakowicz.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=67.20.97.212;

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: simon@jakowicz.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=simon@jakowicz.com; dkim=neutral (no key for signature) header.i=@

X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=LbyvtFvi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=bK0cV3TGnrXVbK90YeSjwg==:117 a=bK0cV3TGnrXVbK90YeSjwg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=UbJnmqAYnIA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bij8VqAIAAAA:8 a=SfxxWJ-KmhsA:10 a=KNYLPHeYxgA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=26gCbA3ug1mLzSivkzcA:9 a=CjuIK1q8ugA:10 a=cnF12FvOHk0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=OnYRFgmMd4A:10 a=_qt1WsnCI-gA:10 a=OunM7NyS5BEA:10

Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jakowicz.com; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=Z5lvZNbPRGhC8sfF21vL4JTz3PjYd9Vk2LRiV3JVb8E=; b=zr8iYbKXkvXXYUvd+yTuCYfm6dMf2ysPcQQeF0IStl1QQtvYaIyzcrHUMcMEDXYgHb/c7lfGG3ca7irMSC9usGpIvi2svovWdGcbscnFFOXmqethsKxsH0VvXDRl4QBz;

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 (1878.6))

In-Reply-To: <A020A037-A74C-417E-84CC-1F960C572E58@gmail.com>

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Message-Id: <2A99D86D-E155-4AB5-8FC4-A156EDF94140@jakowicz.com>

References: <A020A037-A74C-417E-84CC-1F960C572E58@gmail.com>

X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6)

X-Identified-User: {1503:box945.bluehost.com:battlesi:jakowicz.com} {sentby:smtp auth 81.107.210.31 authed with simon@jakowicz.com}

Re: test

This is this is the output of an nslookup

> nslookup -query=MX mail.jakowicz.com

I get

Server: 109.74.192.20

Address: 109.74.192.20#53

Non-authoritative answer:

*** Can't find mail.jakowicz.com: No answer

Authoritative answers can be found from:

jakowicz.com

origin = ns1.linode.com

mail addr = simon.jakowicz.com

serial = 2014052876

refresh = 14400

retry = 14400

expire = 1209600

minimum = 86400

I'm a little rough on the edge of sysadmin and I honestly can't work out what is going wrong here. The DNS records look like they have propagated. Any help is very much appreciated.

Thank you

Simon

2 Replies

you're looking up the wrong thing with your MX query. You don't want to lookup mail.jakowicz.com, you want to look up jakowicz.com and see that it points to mail.jakowicz.com. I get this:

$ nslookup -query=MX jakowicz.com

Server: 207.192.69.4

Address: 207.192.69.4#53

Non-authoritative answer:

jakowicz.com mail exchanger = 10 mail.jakowicz.com.

Authoritative answers can be found from:

jakowicz.com nameserver = ns5.linode.com.

jakowicz.com nameserver = ns1.linode.com.

jakowicz.com nameserver = ns2.linode.com.

jakowicz.com nameserver = ns4.linode.com.

jakowicz.com nameserver = ns3.linode.com.

mail.jakowicz.com internet address = 178.79.150.38

So it looks fine to me. If emails are still going through the old one, that just means the DNS hasn't fully propagated yet. Honestly, some places ignore TTLs even if you do drop them before moving. It can still take a day or two for misconfigured stragglers to catch up. Most people should be fine now though.

Hey gig,

Thanks for the the tip with nslookup.

As you said it was a propagation issue. Just me being impatient I guess :P

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