Need Help With Comparison Between Linode Dedicated And OVH Value Bare Metal
Hello:
I am looking to upgrade my Fremont Data Center Linode (currently a 2 CPU Shared, to an 8 CPU Dedicated. However I need some help.
First of all, the reason I am upgrading is I wish to host four Jamulus live music sharing servers on the same machine (jamulus.vip for more information on Jamulus.io) More than one server can be on the same Linux system; each one uses a different IP port.
An acquaintance already uses an OVH Bare Metal server to host about 8 Jamulus servers as well as a database server. He uses what is called OVH Best Value 2, which is offered at their London, UK Data Center. The pricing is about the same as the pricing for the Linode 8 CPU Dedicated. The information on their website for the Best Value 2 is at
https://us.ovhcloud.com/bare-metal/best-value/bv-2/
They seem to be using an Intel processor running (they way I see it) at 3.4 GHZ. It appears to have 16 cores.
I don't know what CPU's Linode is using for the 8 CPU Dedicated and how many cores for each CPU. The way I read OVH's offering is that each CPU offers 16 cores for a total of 32 cores.
The OVH offering seems to offer more RAM than Linodes; Linode is 16 GB and the OVH offering seems to be 256 GB.
I need help comparing these. It seems to me at first sight with my limited knowledge that OVH is offering far more performance per price than Linode.
Thank you for your help.
Mark Allyn
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@maallyn --
Maybe not relevant but I block TONS of spam, ssh(1) intrusion attempts and bogus imap logins emanating from OVH networks. This indicates to me that:
- OVH has no acceptable use policies; and/or
- OVH does not enforce whatever policies they may have.
Also, there are a lot of Russian proxies that operate through OVH.
This is also something you might want to consider:
https://techlog360.com/cloud-host-ovh-data-center-burned-down/
-- sw
My own experience of OVH from a few years back is that support is (was) terrible - Linode’s is far superior.
It should also be noted that Dedicated Linodes are not bare metal - they’re still VMs, and the RAM, disks and NICs are shared with other customers. Only the CPU cores are dedicated to you - 8 CPU is 8 cores.
Linode are working on bare metal - whenever this releases, it will be a more equal comparison.
Steve:
Are you working for Linode? I ask because if you say you are blocking ssh, does that mean that if I do get an OVH node, I could not ssh from it back to my current Linode node?
Also, and I know this will display my ignorance, what are IMAP logins? I currently use only SSH (using keys) for access to my Linodes and I am the only person who has an account.
However, what you say is very important to me. This does trouble me if I were to do business with them.
Mark Allyn
Bellingham, Washington
@maallyn writes:
Are you working for Linode?
No…just a retired old fart with too much time on my hands due to the pandemic.
I ask because if you say you are blocking ssh, does that mean that if I do get an OVH node, I could not ssh from it back to my current Linode node?
I block nodes (IP addresses)…not protocols…using fail2ban(1). This means that if your Linode's IP address is blocked, you won't be able to access my Linode with any protocol. I block nodes/networks in other ways but, since I want to keep this short, I won't explain that process here. Suffice to say, my blocklists are aggregates of nodes/networks of bad actors around world. The software I use to create these blocklists is of my own invention.
My Linode is for personal use so my customers are all family members. They accept my role as the benevolent dictator of IT services. They really don't mind not having access to AliBaba or the website for Федеральная служба безопасности Российской Федерации (ФСБ)…the successor to the KGB ;-) They don't get spam…which is mostly what they care about. The Linode doesn't have to deal with intrusion attempts…which is mostly what I care about.
Also, and I know this will display my ignorance, what are IMAP logins? I currently use only SSH (using keys) for access to my Linodes and I am the only person who has an account.
IMAP(S) is a protocol for collecting mail (see https://whatismyipaddress.com/imap). In order to do that, the mail user agent (Apple Mail, Thunderbird, etc…in my case, a program that runs on my laptop…but could also be something like Gmail or Yahoo! Mail if you set it up correctly) has to login to the IMAP(S) server to authenticate before the server will give out mail (in my case, the authentication also sets up a secure channel so that the communication between the IMAP server on my Linode and Apple Mail on my laptop or phone is secured using TLS).
It seems to be a common technique nowadays to send spam by going around the SMTP (mail) server and try to login directly to the IMAP server to deposit said spam directly into the mailbox. Guess what, the authentication always fails and there's a log entry made (which fail2ban(1) can analyze and then block the sender's IP).
However, what you say is very important to me. This does trouble me if I were to do business with them.
If I meant to imply that I block ALL of OVHs networks, I apologize. I don't do that. I only block the ones that try to constantly abuse me. This just a part of life on the open internet™.
-- sw
P.S. If you want to talk more privately about all this, email me at the address you find here: https://niteflyte.net. Make sure your message identifies you so I don't toss it & train the provider to treat you as spam.
-- sw
Steve:
Thank you. Fortunately, I don't do any email related stuff on the Linodes, so port 25 and all email related stuff have nothing running behind them.
I have also decided to run ssh on a non standard port after getting gently scolded by a friend who runs a bunch of servers in his business. He tells me that port 22 (I think it is) the default ssh port has been getting hit with attempts since about 2000.
Now, I hope that someone here can commend on the reliability of OVH's description of their offerings and how they compare to Linode's.