database error? or host error?

To check the CPU load, run "top" from the command-line. You'll see something like this at the top of its output:

top - 10:11:53 up 6 days, 12:14,  1 user,  load average: 0.08, 0.22, 0.20

The three numbers at the end there are what you should watch to monitor the cumulative CPU load on your linode. They represent the load averaged at one, five, and ten minutes respectively. For the purposes of this example, you can think of a value of "1" to equal 100% CPU load.

Below that line (and a few other lines relating to cpu and RAM usage), you'll see a long list of all the processes running on your system. By default, they'll be sorted be CPU usage with the highest users at the top of the list. In your case, you should watch this output while people are using your forum - if you're really having a CPU load issue, you'll see either apache or mysql (or whatever RDBMS you're using) pop up to the top of the display.

The other thing you should really watch is your swap usage - I'd guess that this is actually whats causing your problems. Swap usage is also displayed by "top". If it either says that you have 0k swap free or you see your swap numbers churning around rapidly, then chances are good that you're exhausting your io_tokens and are being put on the back burner by your host node.

anderiv … thanks so much for the quick response ..

top - 11:24:49 up 28 min, 2 users, load average: 0.22, 0.56, 0.46

Tasks: 59 total, 2 running, 57 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie

Cpu(s): 2.6% user, 1.6% system, 0.0% nice, 95.8% idle

Mem: 75388k total, 73916k used, 1472k free, 732k buffers

Swap: 365560k total, 109316k used, 256244k free, 7700k cached

This look bad?

No, that doesn't look too bad. Is your box being actively used now, though? None of these figures are really going to do you much good unless you catch them in the midst of seeing the poor performance.

Paste the output of this:

$ cat /proc/io_status

As an aside, put ... tags around these when you paste them…then they'll be rendered in monospaced fonts and will be much easier to read.

right now I've got 15 members online … which is right about the average …

io_count=973194 io_rate=1743 io_tokens=149718 token_refill=512 token_max=400000

@rodman:

io_count=973194 io_rate=1743 io_tokens=149718 token_refill=512 token_max=400000

BAM!!! There's your problem. Your io_tokens number is quite low, and I'm guessing that your host is frequently bottoming out and having its processes limited by the host. So…you should browse through these forums and the wiki to see about slimming down your apache and DB server installs. I've never used SMF, but if it's a well written php app, there's no reason your linode shouldn't be able to support 15 concurrent users.

FYI - forgot to include this in my last response. It's very likely that overuse of swap is causing your io_tokens to be used up.

http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/IO_Tokens

@anderiv:

@rodman:

io_count=973194 io_rate=1743 io_tokens=149718 token_refill=512 token_max=400000

BAM!!! There's your problem. Your io_tokens number is quite low, and I'm guessing that your host is frequently bottoming out and having its processes limited by the host. So…you should browse through these forums and the wiki to see about slimming down your apache and DB server installs. I've never used SMF, but if it's a well written php app, there's no reason your linode shouldn't be able to support 15 concurrent users.

anderiv … thank you soooo much!!!

Loooks like I'll be busy looking up some threads!!!! If you find any that you may think are helpful to me can you post them here. I'll be doing my part as well!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

No problem - see the link I posted in my last reply.

FYI, the io_tokens value ideally should be as close to 400,000 as possible.

Reading the article right now …

io_count=182213 io_rate=0 io_tokens=400000 token_refill=512 token_max=400000

hahha should look just like this eh? This is my io)count on the new linode I purchased a 160 linode to hopefully fix the problem. But it looks like I may not have had to do that!!!

If I cna get my tokens up … i swear I'm gonna buy you a beer … or whatever your poison is! :D

@rodman:

If I cna get my tokens up … i swear I'm gonna buy you a beer … or whatever your poison is! :D
I like beer.

andeiv

BEER INDEED!!

You know what …. I'm thinking it might be my SquirrelMail!!! I have noticed when I run an instance on SquirrelMail …. that's when the slowness starts!!!

I haven't run an instance of Squirrelmail for about an hour now … and now I'm at:

io_count=2213854 io_rate=651 io_tokens=365787 token_refill=512 token_max=400000

Do you use or have ued SquirrelMail? Is it that much of a memory hog?

Thanks

Rod

I agree that uou need to keep your io tokens high, but as far as memory hogs go mysql is a killer, have you trimmed down your mysql config for a low memory configuration? That would probably help, caker has a low memory config example for mysql here:

http://www.linode.com/~caker/uml/my.cnf

Check it out, it might help.

Enjoy.

Hey Guys …..

My my.conf file looks like this:

[mysqld]
datadir=/var/lib/mysql
socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
# Default to using old password format for compatibility with mysql 3.x
# clients (those using the mysqlclient10 compatibility package).
old_passwords=1
skip-bdb

[mysql.server]
user=mysql
basedir=/var/lib

[mysqld_safe]
err-log=/var/log/mysqld.log
pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid

Do I just copy and paste all that stuff from that other my.conf file? Is it weird that my my.conf file is so small and such few entries?

Um it is a lot smaller than mine, but I'm certainly no expert on the subject. My configuration looked very similar to cakers low mem config so I just altered all my values to the much lower values that the example config had in it and it really helped.

As for whether you should just add those entries, I'm not sure, I can't see why not, but I don't want to point you in the wrong direction, you could back up your existing conf file to my.conf.bak and try a new one, if it didn't work just revert back to the old one untill someone can give you a more definitive answer.

Cheers.