--- Day changed --- Log opened Wed Feb 06 23:59:02 2008 23:59 -!- tozz [~nothing@c-67-169-83-253.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:00 -!- tozz [~nothing@crazytuesday.com] has joined #linode 00:05 -!- esoterik [~esoterik@178.90.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #linode 00:17 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:27 -!- atourino [~Antonio@201.218.81.244] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29 -!- Funky_ [fs@tim-cable-66-225-173-134.vianet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29 -!- atourino [~Antonio@201.218.81.244] has joined #linode 00:30 -!- Funky_ [fs@dsl-66-225-166-10.vianet.ca] has joined #linode 00:36 -!- atourino [~Antonio@201.218.81.244] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:59 -!- Funky_ [fs@dsl-66-225-166-10.vianet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:00 -!- Funky_ [fs@ppp-66-225-187-130.vianet.ca] has joined #linode 01:11 -!- Athenon_ [~Athenon@r74-192-74-240.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #linode 01:25 < esoterik> if anyone is bored for a simple float question, I cant figure out why http://pastebin.ca/894736 produces 4 divs floated right, and the 5th box isnt flush up along the left side of the topmost right float 01:26 -!- ElectricElf [~dbharris@bas1-toronto48-1279276359.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #linode 01:32 -!- clanehin [~lane@cpe-069-134-066-130.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 01:33 -!- Electric1lf [~dbharris@bas1-toronto48-1279276910.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43 -!- clanehin [~lane@cpe-069-134-066-130.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44 -!- blithe_ is now known as blithe 01:59 -!- Athenon_ [~Athenon@r74-192-74-240.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:00 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@r74-192-74-240.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:03 -!- Schroeder [1000@kntpin04-nas-02-s166.cinergycom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30 -!- cout [~cout@c-68-58-247-49.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:41 -!- vincenz [~cpoucet@kulnet-nat-2.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has left #linode [] 02:46 -!- Antitribu [~simon@li9-122.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 02:47 -!- Antitribu [~simon@li9-122.members.linode.com] has left #linode [] 02:57 -!- cout [~cout@c-68-58-247-49.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has joined #linode 03:03 -!- Dreamr_3 [~Dreamer3@74-142-174-231.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:21 -!- getsmart [~getsmart@88-149-240-211.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #linode 03:25 -!- Funky- [fs@ppp-66-225-187-130.vianet.ca] has joined #linode 03:27 -!- Funky_ [fs@ppp-66-225-187-130.vianet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:36 -!- CyberMonk [hacker@Ariel.Atlantica.US.TO] has joined #linode 03:37 -!- CyberMonk [hacker@Ariel.Atlantica.US.TO] has quit [] 03:37 -!- CyberMonk [hacker@Chatter.Of.The.United.States.Of.America.Name] has joined #linode 03:42 -!- jamie- [~jamie@rivendell.silverdream.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:44 -!- getsmart [~getsmart@88-149-240-211.dynamic.ngi.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:10 -!- bobby [~bobby@web.jdcomputers.com.au] has joined #linode 05:11 < bobby> Hey Guys, Got a quick question, can I run two hosts of the one linode? 05:12 < quanin> explain? 05:12 < Karnaugh> no you can't 05:13 < bobby> Thank you. 05:13 < bobby> Thought that was the case, but had to double check 05:14 < bobby> Thanks again, see you later 05:14 -!- bobby [~bobby@web.jdcomputers.com.au] has quit [] 05:20 -!- marcel [~marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl] has joined #linode 05:24 -!- Antitribu [~simon@li9-122.members.linode.com] has joined #linode 05:25 -!- Antitribu [~simon@li9-122.members.linode.com] has left #linode [] 05:37 -!- internat85 [~nf@dsl-58-6-125-95.qld.westnet.com.au] has joined #linode 05:37 -!- Internat [~nf@dsl-58-6-125-95.qld.westnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03 -!- atourino [~Antonio@201.218.81.244] has joined #linode 07:35 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 07:49 -!- quanin is now known as Quanin_Away 07:51 -!- getsmart [~getsmart@88-149-240-211.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #linode 07:58 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #linode 07:59 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:09 -!- jenny20 [~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 08:11 -!- jenny20 [~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 08:24 -!- natacha29 [~natacha29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 08:26 -!- natacha29 [~natacha29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 08:32 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@200.184.118.132] has joined #linode 08:35 -!- linville [~linville@sapphire.tuxdriver.com] has joined #linode 08:36 -!- opello [~opello@216.106.237.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40 -!- jenny20 [~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 08:42 -!- liona29 [~liona29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 08:42 -!- jenny20 [~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 08:44 -!- liona29 [~liona29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 08:45 -!- saman [~saman@lincdhcp236131.linc.ox.ac.uk] has joined #linode 08:48 -!- saman [~saman@lincdhcp236131.linc.ox.ac.uk] has quit [] 08:48 -!- daveyjoe [~c101b258@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 08:50 < daveyjoe> Is it possible to sign up for xen when purchasing a new linode vps? or do I have to sign up and then migrate it? 08:51 < mwalling> sign up then migrate 08:51 < mwalling> i just pestered caker enough that when he went to activate my account, he migrated it right away 08:51 < daveyjoe> Thanks! How long does migrating take? approximately 08:52 < mwalling> if you dont have any disk images, as long as it takes for them to click some mouse buttons 08:52 < mikegrb> if it is a new linode with no disk images it is pretty much instantanious 08:53 < daveyjoe> cool, thanks for the help 08:53 < mikegrb> there is only xen space available in dallas at the moment, btw 08:53 < mikegrb> so if you are set on xen you will want to select dallas as your data center the first time you log iin 08:54 < daveyjoe> mikegrb: ahh, crap... I was hoping to use atlanta 08:54 < row> ah yeah I have a migration slot I don't need 08:54 < row> forgot to reply to ticket 08:54 * row does so 08:54 < mikegrb> daveyjoe: well you can always start out on uml and move to xen when a slot becomes available 08:55 < daveyjoe> mikegrb: Do slots become available pretty regularly? 08:55 < mikegrb> semi-regularly :p 08:56 < daveyjoe> days? weeks? fortnights?? 08:56 < daveyjoe> months? 08:57 -!- atourino [~Antonio@201.218.81.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57 < daveyjoe> mikegrb: years :p 09:00 -!- daveyjoe [~c101b258@webuser.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16 -!- opello [~opello@216.106.237.81] has joined #linode 09:16 -!- atourino [~Antonio@cpe-000d3a2d5762.cpe.cableonda.net] has joined #linode 09:16 -!- TJF [~TJF@pat.foulston.com] has joined #linode 09:24 < mikegrb> darkbeholder: decades? 09:24 < mikegrb> oh he left 09:25 < mwalling> tab fail :P 09:26 -!- mode/#linode [+o mikegrb] by ChanServ 09:36 -!- lidi20 [~lidi20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 09:38 -!- lidi20 [~lidi20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 10:03 -!- marcel_ [~marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl] has joined #linode 10:06 -!- marcel [~marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:27 -!- johnm [~johnm@ip70-187-134-242.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #linode 10:37 -!- scorche|w [~42c007b2@squisch.net] has joined #linode 10:41 -!- ElectricElf [~dbharris@bas1-toronto48-1279276359.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41 -!- hatim [~hatim@58-65-160-128.nayatel.pk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45 -!- hatim [~hatim@58-65-160-128.nayatel.pk] has joined #linode 10:45 < hatim> hello people 10:45 < caker> hi 10:46 < hatim> i am looking to install a ruby on rails app, what options do you guys recomend , mongrel+nginx mongrel+lighttpd, fcgi 10:47 < hatim> its just a routine small blog (running on typo) 10:52 -!- hpj [~hpj@189.190.13.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55 -!- lola22 [~lola22@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 10:57 -!- lola22 [~lola22@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 10:57 < hatim> hmmm 10:58 -!- johnm [~johnm@ip70-187-134-242.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [] 10:58 < hatim> i am not getting connect refused 11:03 < hatim> ahh... ssh went down , i think it had to do with cacerts 11:05 < caker> lish to the rescue 11:10 -!- mwalling_ [~mwalling@you.dontlike.us] has quit [Quit: brb :/] 11:11 < anderiv> morning 11:13 -!- mwalling_ [~mwalling@you.dontlike.us] has joined #linode 11:16 < hatim> yeah 11:40 -!- johnm [~johnm@mailgw.pdsi-software.com] has joined #linode 11:48 -!- johnm [~johnm@mailgw.pdsi-software.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52 -!- johnm [~johnm@mailgw.pdsi-software.com] has joined #linode 11:52 -!- cz9qvh [~dwarburto@wbtn.net] has joined #linode 11:54 -!- ElectricElf [~dbharris@bas1-toronto48-1279276359.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #linode 12:06 -!- jenny20 [~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #linode 12:08 -!- jenny20 [~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [] 12:13 -!- Schroeder [1000@kntpin04-nas-02-s38.cinergycom.net] has joined #linode 12:17 -!- esoterik [~esoterik@178.90.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17 -!- timinator [~timothy@c-67-171-118-199.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #linode 12:17 < timinator> hey guys 12:17 < timinator> how would one find out how many i/o requests he has left? 12:19 < caker> cat /proc/io_status 12:19 < caker> http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/IO_Tokens 12:27 < tierra> hey timinator 12:28 < timinator> heya tierra 12:30 < timinator> what'cha doin in here man?!?! 12:30 * tierra owns 2 linodes :) 12:31 < timinator> nice :) 12:31 < timinator> what flavor? 12:31 < tierra> ones a 360, and the other is a 720, both on Debian 12:31 < hatim> my rails is painfull slow 12:32 < tierra> the 720 is my personal playground, the 360 is for work, hehe 12:32 < anderiv> hatim: have you been able to locate a bottleneck? 12:32 < anderiv> tierra: hehe - seems backwards :-) 12:32 < hatim> anderiv, nopes :( 12:33 < hatim> i am just migrating my blog, installed rails on ubuntu gutsy through gem 12:33 < tierra> a little... I've had the 720 for 4+ years now I think... just got the 360 this month actually 12:33 < anderiv> tierra: ahh 12:33 < hatim> just started mongreal webserver and its like taking ages to serve simple index page 12:33 < tierra> I needed the resources back when 720s were 128s, hehe.... never bothered to downgrade 12:35 < anderiv> hatim: you should be watching your CPU usage, memory stats, and IO usage while loading the page to see what's going on. 12:35 < anderiv> tierra: right on. 12:36 < caker> hatim: swap thrashing? 12:36 < hatim> caker, i guess its just a painfully slow app 12:37 < hatim> typo 12:38 < anderiv> hatim: I don't belive Typo3 is known as being slow. Several of my friends use it and it seems to be very snappy. 12:39 < hatim> anderiv, errr, i am talking about typosphre typo (it RoR app) typo3 is some thing else 12:39 < anderiv> hatim: yes - just realized that. 12:39 < anderiv> my comments were in regards to Typo, not Typo3. 12:39 < hatim> i think i found waht was wrong 12:39 < hatim> i am runninng mongrela first time in dev mode over svn code 12:39 < hatim> its making cache 12:40 < hatim> its not bit faster 12:40 < hatim> how can i run ruby production mode 12:42 * anderiv has no idea. He's never touched Ruby ;-) 12:42 < anderiv> hatim: have you tried asking in the Mongrel/Ruby support channels? 12:55 < anderiv> has anyone here tried out dimdim yet? 12:56 -!- marcel_ [~marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01 -!- A-KO [as@c-68-49-173-23.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #linode 13:01 < A-KO> hey caker/tasaro/mikegrb you guys around? 13:03 < tasaro> yes 13:09 < johnm> are there any known performance gain to be had by going to your xen platforms your environment (I am running tomcat)? 13:13 < anderiv> johnm: you get SMP w/ xen, so that's somewhat of a performance gain I suppose. 13:13 < caker> johnm: yes, quite a bit. Less overhead, plus 4 core guests, vs 1 with UML 13:14 < caker> even comparing single CPU xen to single CPU UML, it's quite a difference 13:14 < johnm> dallas53 is not xen, correct. 13:14 < caker> johnm: cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you (it'll say User Mode Linux in there) 13:14 < caker> but no, dallas53 is not a Xen host 13:15 < johnm> do you have xen in dallas for a 540? 13:15 < caker> Yup 13:15 < johnm> ok, i'll send in a ticket to move me then 13:15 < caker> ok 13:15 < johnm> do you just move my environment, everything else stays (so I don't have to re-setup) 13:16 < caker> yes -- we configure the migration, you log in and execute it when you're ready (one button), it'll migrate your filesystems over to the new host, and then press boot -- done! 13:17 < johnm> sweeeeet 13:26 -!- pfein [~pfein@user-160uenf.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #linode 13:26 < pfein> with a linode 360, do you get a fixed, public IP? 13:26 < anderiv> pfein: yes 13:26 < anderiv> all plans... 13:29 < timinator> any way to refill the io tokens? 13:29 < pfein> can I run an IRC bot on it? ;) 13:30 < anderiv> pfein: you can run anything you want as long as it's legal. 13:30 < pfein> is there backup? 13:30 < anderiv> ...and doesn't adversely affect the larger linode network/hosts. 13:30 -!- avongauss [~avongauss@irc.avongauss.info] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 13:30 < A-KO> tasaro, caker: Got a quick note here and wondering if you guys could look into it. I've been having trouble with using FTP over to my linode in Atlanta. The issue is that after a lot of remote connections are made (for transferring many files), it will stop connecting and the connection times out to the FTP server. 13:30 < timinator> no illegal stuff?!?! you're no fun 13:30 < anderiv> pfein: the hosts are RAID1, but backups beyond that are on your own. 13:31 < A-KO> I've tried 2 machines, 2 FTP clients, 2 FTP server daemons, with and without iptables on/off, and when on even increased the # of passive ports it can use. 13:31 * pfein finds the faq 13:31 < A-KO> I'm guessing that it's probably an upstream network issue 13:31 < A-KO> It only occurs when transmitting a lot of small files in succession (web packages, etc.) 13:32 < anderiv> pfein: right on. Lemme know if you have any more questions. 13:32 < pfein> anderiv: k, thx 13:33 < anderiv> A-KO: is scp an option? Instead of FTP? 13:34 < A-KO> anderiv: There's a reason I'm not using SCP for this particular function 13:34 < anderiv> sure thing...just thought I'd throw it out there. Lots of people don't even know about scp. 13:34 < sakaal> or sftp 13:34 < pfein> anderiv: oops, I signed up for monthly instead of annual billing. 13:35 < anderiv> pfein: just submit a support ticket and they'll get you switched over. 13:35 -!- avongauss [~avongauss@irc.avongauss.info] has joined #linode 13:35 < pfein> k 13:35 < A-KO> I use scp for other functions with my server, but this particular one needs plain jane FTP support. 13:40 < sakaal> ...hmmm i guess i have to start keeping some of my configuration files in svn 13:45 < anderiv> sakaal: not a bad idea...or use an incremental backup for them. rdiff-backup/rsnapshot/etc. 13:47 -!- andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #linode 13:49 < sakaal> yup. it's not only for backup 13:50 < sakaal> but maybe i do both 13:50 < sakaal> backups mostly for data 13:52 < timinator> anyone know a way to bump up the # of I/O requests? 13:52 < anderiv> timinator: you mean your number of io_tokens? 13:52 < timinator> yep 13:53 < anderiv> timinator: nope - that's set on boot. 13:53 < timinator> so a reboot will renew those? 13:53 < mwalling_> timinator: they dont run out 13:53 < timinator> oh 13:53 < mwalling_> its like a bucket with a trickle of water in it 13:53 < anderiv> timinator: yes, they're replenished. 13:53 < timinator> that's cool 13:53 < pfein> hmm, which data center? 13:54 < anderiv> timinator: that's the token_refill value in /proc/io_status 13:54 < anderiv> pfein: depends. 13:54 < pfein> anderiv: depends on? 13:54 < anderiv> you many want to see which one has the lowest latency connection to where you are and/or highest bandwidth. 13:55 < timinator> so, if I'm experiencing a lot of traffic, the io won't be where I'll have problems? it'd be bandwidth or something? 13:55 < anderiv> timinator: io usually only becomes a problem with very disk-intensive activities. 13:55 < pfein> anderiv: is there a router IP list somewhere? 13:55 < anderiv> pfein: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2636 13:55 * pfein opened a ticket for billing fix 13:56 < pfein> anderiv: can I move it once I pick a dc? 13:56 < anderiv> pfein: probably. It depends on whether or not there's room in your target DC, though. 13:57 < anderiv> pfein: datacenter moves also require an IP address change. 13:57 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@yttrium.canonical.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57 < bd_> http://www.linode.com/avail.cfm <-- you can see DC availability here 13:58 -!- hpj [~hpj@189.190.13.164] has joined #linode 13:59 < timinator> very cool.... thanks for the info guys 13:59 < anderiv> timinator: sure. 14:01 < guinea-pig> nifty. is that page new? 14:04 < anderiv> guinea-pig: new-ish I believe, in the past few weeks. 14:04 < mwalling_> guinea-pig: they also added... 14:04 < anderiv> you can also call !avail- in here and linbot will help you out. 14:04 < guinea-pig> ah 14:04 < mwalling_> !avail-tp 14:04 < linbot> mwalling_: Dallas360 - 60, Dallas540 - 23, Dallas720 - 2, Dallas1080 - 2, Dallas1440 - 2 14:04 < guinea-pig> heh, nice 14:04 < guinea-pig> i'd been meaning to bug caker about doing something like that, heh 14:05 < anderiv> !avail-dallas 14:05 < linbot> anderiv: Dallas360 - 60, Dallas540 - 23, Dallas720 - 2, Dallas1080 - 2, Dallas1440 - 2 14:05 < anderiv> nice...aliases :-) 14:07 < pfein> slick 14:07 < sakaal> !help 14:07 < linbot> sakaal: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 14:08 < guinea-pig> !help list plugins 14:08 < guinea-pig> d/oh 14:08 < anderiv> pwned 14:08 < anderiv> ;-) 14:08 < sakaal> i guess menu was too much asked 14:09 < sakaal> actually people who use the help command probably already know what that command does 14:10 < mwalling_> !list 14:10 < linbot> mwalling_: AcronymFinder, Admin, Alias, Amazon, Anonymous, Babelfish, BadWords, Channel, Config, Currency, CyborgName, Debian, Dict, Dunno, Ebay, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Internet, Lart, Later, LinodeAvail, Linux, Memo, Misc, News, Nickometer, Note, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, RSS, Rhyme, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Sourceforge, Status, Stock, String, Success, (1 more message) 14:10 < mwalling_> !list games 14:10 < linbot> mwalling_: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette 14:10 < mwalling_> help games coin 14:10 < mwalling_> !help games coin 14:10 < linbot> mwalling_: (games coin takes no arguments) -- Flips a coin and returns the result. 14:10 < mwalling_> and thus ends supybot 101 14:10 < mwalling_> there will be a test next week 14:11 < sakaal> k 14:11 < sakaal> are we getting real time stock quotes. or just the quote of the day 14:11 < anderiv> !stock AAPL 14:11 < linbot> anderiv: The current price of AAPL is 123.90, as of 1:56pm EST. A change of +1.90 from the last business day. 14:11 < mwalling_> !stock GE 14:11 < linbot> mwalling_: The current price of GE is 34.35, as of 1:51pm EST. A change of +0.15 from the last business day. 14:11 -!- Standardista [~standardi@outbound.wa1.ascentium.com] has joined #linode 14:12 < sakaal> about 5 yrs ago we were doing those mobile phone SMS services 14:12 < sakaal> and configured some of them with ircbots 14:13 < sakaal> so we got message on the channel eg. whenever some Enlighs football league team scored a goal 14:13 < sakaal> of course first specify which game to watch 14:14 < sakaal> bots are nice 14:14 < sakaal> !babelfish this 14:15 < sakaal> !list babelfish 14:15 < linbot> sakaal: babelize, language list, language random, and translate 14:15 -!- Standardista [~standardi@outbound.wa1.ascentium.com] has quit [] 14:16 < sakaal> !help babelfish translate 14:16 < linbot> sakaal: (babelfish translate [to] ) -- Returns translated from into . Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results. 14:16 < sakaal> !help babelfish translate fi en Toimiiko tämä? 14:16 < sakaal> !babelfish translate fi en Toimiiko tämä? 14:17 < johnm> babelfish translate en to es hello 14:17 < sakaal> ah it wants the full name 14:17 < sakaal> !babelfish translate English to Russian Does it work? 14:17 < linbot> sakaal: '\x00\x00\x00 \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00?' 14:18 < sakaal> !babelfish translate English to French Well, does it? 14:18 < linbot> sakaal: Bien, il ? 14:18 < sakaal> nice 14:18 < sakaal> !babelfish translate English to Finnish But why not my language? 14:18 < sakaal> useless.... grr 14:22 < pfein> great, I logged in 14:22 < pfein> wow, that was incredibly easy 14:23 < pfein> anderiv: can I take a snapshot of a running image? 14:32 < anderiv> pfein: not yet. 14:33 < sakaal> i guess with xen you can even move a running image to another server 14:33 < anderiv> sakaal: you need to have a SAN to do that, though, I believe. 14:34 < sakaal> powerful features 14:34 < johnm> re: snapshot, if you ran under lvm and had space couldn't you snapshot that to another volume and back that up? 14:35 -!- atourin1 [~Antonio@cpe-000d3a2d5762.cpe.cableonda.net] has joined #linode 14:37 -!- eean [~ian@216.146.251.4] has joined #linode 14:38 -!- atourino [~Antonio@cpe-000d3a2d5762.cpe.cableonda.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:38 < eean> just opened my account today, I keep getting "an error has occured" when trying to do stuff in dashboard 14:38 < eean> is there something going on? 14:38 < anderiv> eean: define "stuff" 14:39 < anderiv> eean: and by dashboard, I assume you mean LPM (linode.com)? 14:39 < eean> the Dashboard at linode.com yes 14:39 < eean> well right now I'm just trying to return to it, after having created a new partiiton 14:40 < anderiv> hrm - seems a bit laggy now. 14:40 < eean> like actually I think my server is 95% configured, just need to add the partition to the configuration and then I'm booting. 14:40 < anderiv> it'd venture to guess that yes, something is awry. 14:40 < mwalling_> there is no masquarade support in the kernels? 14:40 < eean> heh ok thats good I guess 14:40 -!- adj [~relax@67.18.186.203] has joined #linode 14:41 < adj> whats up with dallas' connection? 14:41 < fuzzie> it seems to only be on the last hop, so DDoS again? 14:42 < anderiv> fuzzie: yes, I'm getting packet loss immediately after vl2.car01.dllstx2.theplanet.com 14:42 < anderiv> mtr says ~40% 14:44 < mwalling_> whats mtr say now? 14:44 < mwalling_> my ssh lag went away 14:44 < anderiv> 28% and rising. 14:44 < fuzzie> it's coming and going 14:44 * anderiv nods 14:45 < mwalling_> huh... 14:45 < mwalling_> i know why my NAT wasn't working 14:45 < mwalling_> i misspelled masquarade 14:45 < anderiv> hehe 14:45 < anderiv> ...always some mundane detail, huh? 14:45 < anderiv> :-) 14:46 < eean> just a little thursday detail 14:46 < eean> HAHA 14:46 < tierra> what does it mean when MTR reports loss on all hops? heh 14:46 < anderiv> interesting...I'm not running mtr from one of my servers in Austin, and I'm getting loss in a few other places withing TP's network as well. 14:47 < eean> ok now I haven't been able to get on the linode dashboard for the past 5 minutes :/ 14:47 < adj> yeah. linodes site must be at TP too 14:47 < anderiv> caker: you around? 14:47 < eean> aaah 14:47 < linbot> New news from forums: PPTP Problem in Linux Networking || PPTP Problem in Linux Networking || PPTP Problem in Linux Networking || PPTP Problem in Linux Networking 14:48 < eean> my node is in Georgia 14:48 < mwalling_> adj: yeah, linode.com runs on a L1440 in dallas 14:48 < eean> but I guess the dashboard shit might be in texas 14:48 < anderiv> yes, but LPM is in dallas. 14:48 < adj> dallas would make sense from a geographic perspective 14:48 < mwalling_> dallas was also their first DC 14:49 < mwalling_> eean: dashboard "shit"? 14:49 < anderiv> interesting...the forums are now throwing a mysql error. The db must live in a different DC? 14:49 < eean> too colorful? 14:49 -!- l0uis [4065b08f@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #linode 14:49 < anderiv> ...or it *is* a DDoS against linode.com 14:49 < l0uis> network issues? 14:50 < anderiv> eean: a bit derougatory (sp?), yes. 14:50 < anderiv> l0uis: y 14:50 < eean> againist dashboard? um 14:50 < tierra> not just dashboard... looks like all nodes in TP are affected 14:50 < tierra> mine is anyway 14:50 < eean> if had started configuring 5 minutes earlier this wouldn't have effect me. :/ 14:50 < tierra> heh 14:51 < anderiv> eean: bummer :-) 14:51 < anderiv> you must have forgot to hit the "turbo" button on your PC this morning. 14:52 < l0uis> seems to be subsiding.. at least my ssh session is back 14:52 < eean> whoowhoo dashboard is back too 14:52 < adj> just ping 14:52 < adj> ^ mischan 14:54 < tierra> yeah, seems to be cleaning up 14:55 < adj> thats a much faster response than at GNAX 14:55 < tierra> still some loss on savvis.net, but when isn't there loss on savvis.net... heh 14:57 -!- Schroeder [1000@kntpin04-nas-02-s38.cinergycom.net] has quit [Quit: Schroeder] 14:58 -!- l0uis [4065b08f@webchat.mibbit.com] has left #linode [] 14:58 < linbot> New news from forums: DNS Manager Slave Zone Support in DNS Manager Beta || Questions about hosting in Sales Questions and Answers || Reboot: host57.fremont.linode.com in System and Network Status 14:59 -!- peleg [~peleg@82-35-74-37.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #linode 14:59 -!- testserman [~40167dee@webuser.linode.com] has joined #linode 15:00 < peleg> Hello... In the last half a day I've been trying to configure a subdomain in my account, and could not do it. I can detail the entire process that I've done, if someone could help me for a few minutes with it. Thanks! 15:01 < eean> does linode have a localish mirror for Ubuntu packages? my node is in Atlanta 15:01 < peleg> hmmm... is someone here? 15:02 < anderiv> peleg: yes 15:02 < peleg> anderiv: hi, good to know.. 15:03 < peleg> anderiv: would you like to hear the process that I've done in order to configure a subdomain, and maybe point what I miss? 15:03 < scott> d mn pac et lo s 15:03 < anderiv> peleg: is this in reference to linode's DNS manager? If so, I don't believe I'd be able to be of any help, as I don't use their DNS services. 15:04 < peleg> anderiv: I'm not sure; I think it's more about simple apache configuration. Do you use your own DNS? 15:04 < anderiv> peleg: my domain registrar provides DNS service. 15:04 < anderiv> peleg: I'd probably be able to help w/ apache config, though. 15:04 < anderiv> peleg: what are you trying to do? 15:04 < peleg> anderiv: I see. 15:04 < anderiv> VirtualHost? 15:05 < peleg> anderiv: I have a domain. I am trying to configure a subdomain - yes, a virtual host 15:05 < peleg> anderiv: works well on my local machine (ubuntu) 15:05 < peleg> anderiv: couldn't configure it right on the remote machine (debian) 15:06 < anderiv> peleg: what's happening? Error messages, etc? 15:06 -!- adj [~relax@67.18.186.203] has left #linode [] 15:06 < peleg> anderiv: no, actually everything looks fine; but when I try to address sub.domain.org I get the usual 404 15:07 < peleg> anderiv: does it take a long time to update the DNS about the new subdomain, maybe? 15:07 < anderiv> is it *really* a 404? Do you see an entry in your apache error_log? 15:08 < anderiv> is that new domain name resolving correctly for you? 15:08 < peleg> anderiv: I have set a new logs folder for the subdomain's virtual host. There's nothing there, though. 15:08 < peleg> anderiv: the domain.org works well. 15:08 < anderiv> peleg: how about sub.? 15:08 < atourin1> try: dig yoursubdomain.yourdomain.com 15:09 < anderiv> ..or nslookup, depending on platform :-) 15:09 < atourin1> he said he is using ubuntu :) 15:09 < anderiv> atourin1: touche :-) 15:09 < peleg> anderiv: nslookup sub.domain.org ? 15:09 < peleg> I think I have it. 15:09 < anderiv> peleg: only if you're on windows. From your ubuntu box, use what atourin1 said. 15:10 < peleg> anderiv: funny - nslookup worked. 15:11 < peleg> anderiv: It gives me my server's ip 15:11 < peleg> anderiv: oh! 15:11 < peleg> anderiv: sorry, now the url works as well! 15:11 < anderiv> woot 15:11 < peleg> anderiv: maybe it only needed some time... 15:11 < anderiv> probably. 15:11 < peleg> anderiv: well, thank you very much, anyway! 15:11 < anderiv> np. glad it's working now. 15:12 < anderiv> peleg: how are things across the pond this fine day? 15:12 < peleg> anderiv: sorry: what is "pond"? 15:12 < anderiv> you're in the UK somewhere, no? 15:12 < peleg> anderiv: yes, I am... London. Temporarily. 15:13 < anderiv> I was referencing the small pond otherwise known as the Atlantic ;-) 15:13 < peleg> anderiv: :-) well - cold; and that's about it. Nothing special... 15:14 < anderiv> same here - cold and snowy. 15:14 < peleg> anderiv: that's the thing! We DON'T have snow... I wish we had at least that; but no, cold and boring. 15:14 < anderiv> peleg: ahh - I see. 15:15 < sakaal> we don't have snow either 15:15 < peleg> gotta go for a few minutes. Be right back. 15:16 < sakaal> ssh tunnels are the best invention since toilet paper 15:16 < anderiv> sakaal: agreed 15:17 < sakaal> i dont have fixed address atm, but with them i can still run my svn server 15:17 < sakaal> and connect to it from my linode like it was there 15:18 < sakaal> for some reason i havent yet met tatu ylonen in person 15:20 < Funky-> I wish there was no snow here... 15:20 < sakaal> where? 15:20 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has joined #linode 15:20 < Funky-> you guys don't know how it is walk though kilometers of that stuff 15:20 < Funky-> montreal, canada 15:20 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has quit [] 15:20 < sakaal> believe me i know 15:20 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has joined #linode 15:20 < sakaal> i was born in lapland 15:21 < Funky-> i'd much rather it just be cold and have no snow :P 15:21 < sakaal> snow is great when you have enough 15:21 < sakaal> of it 15:21 < sakaal> if there's too little it gets dirty 15:21 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has quit [] 15:21 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has joined #linode 15:21 < sakaal> but when there's enough it's bright and nice 15:22 < sakaal> whay don't get a pair of skis 15:22 < sakaal> or a potkukelkka 15:23 < Funky-> city takes the away the snow within a week 15:23 < sakaal> when i was a kid, i went to school 2km every day in varying depths of snow and ice 15:23 < Funky-> then it snows again and the whole process starts over 15:23 < sakaal> yeah, thats normal here 15:23 < sakaal> they do it every day 15:23 < sakaal> or even several times a day when it snows too much 15:24 < sakaal> on busy routes 15:24 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has quit [] 15:24 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has joined #linode 15:24 < sakaal> ahh... kicksled = potkukelkka 15:25 < sakaal> funky, do you really complain when you HAVE snow? in finland people usually complain when there's no snow - like now 15:26 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has quit [] 15:26 < sakaal> everyone wants a white christmas and it's very dissappointing when that doesn't happen 15:27 < eean> I thought everyone was just very sad in winter in Finland in general 15:27 < eean> no sun 15:28 -!- l0uis [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has joined #linode 15:28 < sakaal> it's only a short period without sun 15:28 < sakaal> like a couple weeks 15:28 < anderiv> l0uis: can't make up your mind whether you're coming or going? ;-) 15:28 < sakaal> then the days get longer fast, and it's much brighter in wintertime because the snow is so white 15:28 < eean> the short days suck even here in Missouri. and we're technically south of Italy I think. :) 15:29 < sakaal> eean: but in summer the sun never sets. 15:29 < l0uis> anderiv: Lol, sorry :). Tweaking screen/irssi config... 15:29 < mikegrb> lolz 15:29 < l0uis> anderiv: I'm here for now :D 15:29 < anderiv> hehe - no prob. I've been there :-) 15:31 < sakaal> eean: and even the small inhabited villages in finland have streetlights so the winter mornings and evenings (and of course nights) are only dark in uninhabited areas 15:31 < eean> the sun does more then make things brighter ya know :) 15:32 < sakaal> are you talking about warmth? 15:32 < eean> everything. its pyschological too. 15:32 < sakaal> yep, but like i said winterdays are much brighter than summer 15:32 < sakaal> and it's very refreshing 15:32 < Rifkin> If I want to change the IP addr of my linode, how hard is that? 15:33 < sakaal> (of course when there are not too many clouds) 15:34 < eean> yea its snowy here and rather pretty :) 15:34 < sakaal> nice 15:34 < sakaal> the last couple winters here have been pretty black though... and like i said earlier, everyone is unhappy not having enough snow 15:35 < sakaal> so it was funny for me to hear someone complaining about HAVING snow 15:35 < pfein> hmm, so what do I do now? 15:36 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@host-84-9-49-238.dslgb.com] has joined #linode 15:37 < anderiv> Rifkin: you probably need to submit a support ticket. 15:38 < scott> yay, vista sp1! 15:41 < caker> Rifkin: add an IP, then cancel the old one 15:42 < sakaal> +15°C / 59°F This is as warm as it gets in Finland, so we'll start here. People in Spain wear winter-coats and gloves. The Finns are out in the sun, getting a tan. 15:42 < sakaal> +10°C / 50°F The French are trying in vain to start their central heating. The Finns plant flowers in their gardens. 15:42 < sakaal> +5°C / 41°F Italian cars won't start, The Finns are cruising in cabriolets. 15:43 < sakaal> 0°C / 32°F Distilled water freezes. The water in Vantaa river (in Finland) gets a little thicker. 15:43 < sakaal> -5°C / 23°F People in California almost freeze to death. The Finns have their final barbecue before winter. 15:44 < TJF> do you know Kimi? 15:44 < sakaal> hehe, not personally 15:44 < sakaal> but of course otherwise 15:44 < TJF> :) 15:44 < sakaal> -10°C / 14°F The Brits start the heat in their houses. The Finns start using long sleeves. 15:44 < TJF> not sure anyone else here does tho >.> 15:44 < pfein> is this My Very Own IP Address? https://www.linode.com/members/netinfo.cfm 15:45 < sakaal> -20°C / -4°F The Aussies flee from Mallorca. The Finns end their Midsummer celebrations. Autumn is here. 15:45 * TJF guesses that there's session data required for that link 15:45 < sakaal> -30°C / -22°F People in Greece die from the cold and disappear from the face of the earth. The Finns start drying their laundry indoors. 15:46 < sakaal> -40°C / -40°F Paris start cracking in the cold. The Finns stand in line at the hotdog stands. 15:46 < pfein> TJF: I just got a linode & booted it. Is the IP address it comes up at reserved for my instances? 15:46 < Bdragon> pfein: Yeah, all IPs are dedicated and do not change unless you switch datacenters 15:46 < TJF> pfein: but yes that's your ip 15:46 < pfein> Bdragon: thanks 15:46 < pfein> and all the network settings get done by dhcp by default? 15:46 < sakaal> -50°C / -58°F Polar bears start evacuating the North Pole. The Finnish army postpones their winter survival training awaiting real winter weather. 15:46 < JDLSpeedy> who is this sakaal? ha 15:47 < sakaal> just a guy from guess where 15:47 < sakaal> flooding you 15:47 < TJF> i guess hawaii 15:47 < TJF> or canada 15:47 < sakaal> -60°C / -76°F Korvatunturi (the home for Santa Claus) freezes. The Finns rent a movie and stay indoors. 15:48 < sakaal> -70°C / -94°F The false Santa moves south. The Finns get frustrated since they can't store their Kossu (Koskenkorva vodka) outdoors. The Finnish army goes out on winter survival training. 15:48 < Bdragon> Should, unless you use multiple IPs (you can add a second IP if you wish) 15:48 < sakaal> -183°C / -297.4°F Microbes in food don't survive. The Finnish cows complain that the farmers' hands are cold. 15:48 < pfein> Bdragon: is there a way to save the image? Like, i set the hostname... If i want to reboot it, do I have to do that again? 15:48 < anderiv> sakaal: mmmmkay, we get the idea :-) 15:49 < sakaal> almost there ;) 15:49 < Bdragon> pfein: That's distro specific... 15:49 < sakaal> -273°C / -459.4°F ALL atom-based movent halts. The Finns start saying "Perkele, it's cold outside today." 15:49 < anderiv> !insult sakaal 15:49 < linbot> sakaal - You are nothing but a hasty-witted pile of malt-wormy dog. 15:49 * pfein tries again 15:49 < Bdragon> pfein: There's no "saving image," it works more like a real machine than a vmware instance... 15:49 < sakaal> hehe 15:49 < sakaal> libot got enough 15:50 < pfein> Bdragon: if i edit a file and then do `reboot`, will the file still be there when the image boots again? 15:50 < anderiv> pfein: yes 15:50 < Bdragon> pfein: Sure, assuming the file would be there if you did the same thing on a real machine (i.e. if you put something in /tmp, some distros will wipe it on reboot, etc) 15:51 < pfein> and if the box it's running on explodes, I need my own backups? 15:51 < Bdragon> Yep 15:51 < anderiv> pfein: yes 15:51 < pfein> hmm, sounds reasonable 15:51 < pfein> what do y'all suggest using to do that on Ubuntu? S3 support would be nice... 15:52 < tasaro> pfein: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Backups_with_s3sync 15:53 < pfein> tasaro: hmm, maybe I'll just use duplicity or mondo 15:54 < bd_> I use duplicity's S3 mode 15:58 -!- jamie [~jamie@rivendell.silverdream.org] has joined #linode 15:58 -!- jamie is now known as jamie- 16:01 < pfein> hmm, aptitude install ubuntu-server? 16:01 < anderiv> pfein: ??? 16:02 < bd_> no such thing, is there? 16:03 < anderiv> pfein: what are you trying to install? 16:04 < Karnaugh> tasaro: Does that take into account the PUT accounting? 16:04 < Karnaugh> tasaro: Amazon dislikes small blocks 16:04 < mwalling_> Karnaugh: huh? 16:04 < caker> all traffic in/out of your Linode is counted 16:04 < pfein> anderiv: which ubuntu apt task has a nice set of server packages & no gnome? 16:05 < caker> pfein: you're already on an ubuntu server install 16:05 < anderiv> pfein: I assume you're looking for LAMP? There are dozens, if not hundreds of "servers" in apt. 16:06 < bd_> mwalling_: amazon charges $0.01 per 1,000 inserts (or 10,000 GETs) 16:07 < bd_> also per 1,000 LIST requests I think (GET against the bucket) 16:09 < Karnaugh> $0.01 per 1,000 PUT or LIST requests 16:09 < Karnaugh> so if you upload /var you're probably going to have a problem 16:10 < Karnaugh> just uploading my maildir would cost $2 in PUT requests 16:10 < mwalling_> *gulp* 16:10 * mwalling_ updates his script to tar everything first, and upload the tar 16:10 < anderiv> tarball it first? 16:11 < Karnaugh> probably a better idea if you have 50% slack space to do it 16:11 < Karnaugh> I generaly don't :P 16:11 -!- paulcager_ is now known as paulcager 16:11 < Karnaugh> you could probably pipe tar into something uploading the stream though 16:12 < Karnaugh> that might be non-trivial 16:14 < l0uis> You could use jungledisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) and let it handle it.. appears as a filesystem to s3 16:15 < anderiv> l0uis: it's still sending just as many GETs and PUTs, though. 16:15 < l0uis> anderiv: yes, definitely. but avoids the slack space issue. tar it directly to your jungledisk and let it handle the streaming 16:15 -!- Tolls [~makaveli@69.60.110.96] has joined #linode 16:18 < Tolls> hi guys i have a problem. my server has multiple ip addresses, but whenever i make an ssh tunnel to my one of my servers's ip addresses, the outgoing connection ends up showing as a different ip when i go to irc, websites (whatismyip.com), servers etc. example: the ip i connect to to make the ssh tunnel is 12.12.12.50, but all connections end up showing as 12.12.12.10 -- which was the original ip of my server before i bought the extras. 16:18 < Tolls> any idea how i can make this work? 16:19 < Karnaugh> policy routing probably 16:19 < Tolls> so i should check out the routing table? 16:20 < mwalling_> some programs can bind to certain interfaces too 16:20 < Karnaugh> except ssh tunnels probably 16:20 < Tolls> oh, which ssh tunnel program do you recommend with that option, mwalling? 16:20 < mwalling_> "program"? 16:20 < Tolls> yes 16:20 < mwalling_> doesnt ssh(1) do it? 16:20 < Karnaugh> normal ssh takes -B 16:21 < Karnaugh> agh 16:21 < anderiv> heh 16:21 < Karnaugh> -R 16:21 < Tolls> i'm just using putty to do this 16:21 < Karnaugh> with an optional leading bind address parameter 16:21 -!- FireSlash [~FireSlash@68-31-218-59.area4.spcsdns.net] has joined #linode 16:21 -!- phlaegel_ [~neh@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22 < mwalling_> putty on win32 or linux? 16:22 < Tolls> win32 :) 16:23 < JDLSpeedy> mwalling_: putty can be for win32 or linux 16:23 < JDLSpeedy> but if your using linux, just use ssh 16:23 < mwalling_> JDLSpeedy: *which is why i asked* 16:23 < Karnaugh> so change BindAddress and look at LocalForward on the remote end? 16:24 < Tolls> how do i change the BindAddress from the remote shell? 16:24 < JDLSpeedy> mwalling_: o, sorry, i thought u where asking for your self, heh 16:24 < Tolls> it's np JDLSpeedy ^^ any help is welcome 16:25 < JDLSpeedy> I do port forwarding with putty and ssh all the time 16:26 < Tolls> JDLSpeedy but can you specify which remote IP should be used for the tunnel in case of multiple ips? 16:27 < JDLSpeedy> ^^ let me read above 16:30 -!- getsmart [~getsmart@88-149-240-211.dynamic.ngi.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 < JDLSpeedy> Tolls: how are you setting up the settings right now? 16:32 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@host-84-9-49-238.dslgb.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:32 -!- SpaceHobo [~spacehobo@host-84-9-49-238.dslgb.com] has joined #linode 16:32 < Tolls> none, i just connect to the server with putty and then set port 720 in the "tunnels" menu 16:32 < Tolls> it works ^^ 16:32 < Tolls> but not correctly 16:32 < Tolls> hehe 16:33 < pfein> is there a SMTP server? Like, that I can send cron mails through? 16:34 < mwalling_> sure, there's lots 16:34 * pfein was wondering if linode ran one for such purposes 16:35 < JDLSpeedy> Tolls: hmm, im trying to figure out how your browsing the internet with a port forwarding through a tunnel 16:35 < mwalling_> pfein: nope... the only "service" that linode runs is dns 16:35 < Tolls> [22:25:02] [JDLSpeedy]: I do port forwarding with putty and ssh all the time 16:35 < Tolls> probably like that o.O 16:36 < pfein> mwalling_: ah, ok 16:39 < JDLSpeedy> Tolls: LOL, ugh, i ssh into my main box which runs vnc locally, so i use port forwarding vnc so I can vnc into my computer without having vnc open to the internet 16:39 < mikegrb> lolz 16:39 < Tolls> oh i see :) 16:40 < Tolls> nice setup 16:40 < mwalling_> and i run an ssh tunnel to squid on my server for browsing through 16:40 < mwalling_> (since i have more luck with http_proxy's then with socks proxies) 16:41 < anderiv> mwalling_: interesting...what problems have you had w/ SOCKS? They've always worked perfectly for me when used with firefox, thunderbird, Pidgin, etc. 16:42 < sakaal> does linode have policy on running services like tor? 16:42 < anderiv> sakaal: http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3082 16:42 < sakaal> ty 16:43 < sakaal> i should check the forums more 16:43 < JDLSpeedy> and i use it for cups too, cups only listens locally on default, so i keep it that way so I 631:127.0.0.1:631 and browse http://127.0.0.1:631/ to get to the web-based interface 16:43 < Tolls> ssh -b 12.12.12.50 -L 720:12.12.12.50:720 test@testt <-- would this start an ssh tunnel on my remote server so that i connect to 127.0.0.1:720 on my own pc and get on irc from the ip address 12.12.12.50? 16:43 < sneakums> with socks, in my experience, either ssh doesn't pass errors back to the client, or it does and iceweasel ignores them 16:44 < sneakums> so if a remote site is down, you have to look at where ssh is running to see the mysteriously-worded error message 16:44 < sneakums> so i run squid on the linode and forward to that 16:45 < anderiv> sneakums: have you tried dynamic SSH tunnels as SOCKS proxies? 16:45 < sneakums> ssh -D is what i've observed that behaviour with 16:45 < Tolls> mine is dynamic right now and works fine with all sites 16:46 < anderiv> interesting 16:46 < sneakums> it works fine when the sites are up 16:46 < sneakums> when a site is down, it's tricky fo find out what's going on 16:46 < Tolls> ahh 16:46 < Tolls> yeah i haven't had that happen yet 16:46 < JDLSpeedy> I never could figure out how dynamic works 16:47 < sneakums> you need socks clients to use it 16:47 < JDLSpeedy> socks clients? 16:47 < Tolls> i don't know, i just enable the D field in putty and it works 16:47 < sneakums> it gives you a socks server on the specified local port 16:47 < sneakums> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS 16:47 < Tolls> so does anyone know if 16:47 < Tolls> ssh -b 12.12.12.50 -L 720:12.12.12.50:720 test@testt <-- would this start an ssh tunnel on my remote server so that i connect to 127.0.0.1:720 on my own pc and get on irc from the ip address 12.12.12.50? 16:47 < Tolls> would work? 16:47 < JDLSpeedy> oo, ok, i see, so u have to accually set the browser proxy setup 16:48 < JDLSpeedy> you can do -> 720:127.0.0.1:720 16:49 < Tolls> ok 16:49 < JDLSpeedy> if port 720 listens on 127.0.0.1 16:49 < Tolls> and test@testt is ok for username and hostname? sorry i've never used the command line before, i always did it with gui before 16:49 < JDLSpeedy> if not 720:12.12.12.50:720 works if 720 listens on 12.12.12.50 16:50 < JDLSpeedy> ssh -b 12.12.12.50 -L 720:12.12.12.50:720 @ 16:50 < sneakums> yeah, user@host works with that 16:50 < Tolls> ok 16:50 < Tolls> thanks! 16:50 < Tolls> giving it a try now... 16:50 < sneakums> you can also put that stuff in ~/.ssh/config and just do 'ssh host', check out 'man ssh_config' 16:52 < JDLSpeedy> ya, what sneakums said too ;) 16:52 < JDLSpeedy> sneakums: cool, i got the dynamic thing working, thats nice :-D 16:53 < anderiv> JDLSpeedy: yes - quite nice from coffee shops, etc. 16:53 < sneakums> if you're using firefox, enable remote dns, it looks up locally by default 16:53 < anderiv> JDLSpeedy: any program that supports SOCKS proxies should work fine... 16:53 < JDLSpeedy> nice :-D 16:53 < sneakums> network.proxy.socks_remote_dns 16:56 < JDLSpeedy> sneakums: im gusesing thats not in options? 16:56 < anderiv> JDLSpeedy: about:config 16:56 < sneakums> yep, that 16:56 < anderiv> JDLSpeedy: type that in your loacation bar. 16:56 < sneakums> and then just type dns in the search, it'll pop right up 16:56 < sneakums> double-clock to toggle 16:56 < sneakums> er, click 16:57 < JDLSpeedy> yep, got it :-D 16:57 < Tolls> ok i just typed that in my putty window 16:57 < Tolls> but when connecting to irc i still got 16:57 < Tolls> [22:54:19] Local host: mail.***.com (12.12.12.10) 16:57 < Tolls> instead of 12.12.12.50 which i typed as -b address 16:59 -!- vs9|craptop [~vsnine@dyn216-8-131-180.ADSL.mnsi.net] has joined #linode 17:00 -!- andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01 -!- andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #linode 17:11 -!- vsnine|crptp [~vsnine@dyn216-8-170-134.ADSL.mnsi.net] has joined #linode 17:13 < sakaal> any subversion gurus here? i guess svn doesnt retain file permissions by default, but could i use the svn properties to configure that? 17:13 < JDLSpeedy> Tolls: all i can think of is switch your ip's in your network configuration 17:13 < JDLSpeedy> on your linode that is 17:14 -!- FireSlash [~FireSlash@68-31-218-59.area4.spcsdns.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:16 -!- moe [~moe@robcross.force9.co.uk] has joined #linode 17:16 < moe> hey 17:16 < moe> caker: you there 17:16 < moe> i need to find out some info :) 17:16 < anderiv> moe: haven't seen him in a while. He may be lurking in the shadows, though. 17:16 < moe> lol 17:16 < mikegrb> lolz 17:16 -!- vs9|craptop [~vsnine@dyn216-8-131-180.ADSL.mnsi.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16 < moe> i just wana find out the backbone info on the servers in dallas 17:18 < sakaal> ah there's an unofficial subversion branch with metadata versioning... i'll check that out... 17:20 -!- moe [~moe@robcross.force9.co.uk] has quit [] 17:21 -!- vsnine__ [~vsnine@dyn216-8-175-52.ADSL.mnsi.net] has joined #linode 17:24 -!- cz9qvh [~dwarburto@wbtn.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25 < sakaal> well that didn't help much. 17:26 -!- vsnine|crptp [~vsnine@dyn216-8-170-134.ADSL.mnsi.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27 -!- linville [~linville@sapphire.tuxdriver.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27 < sakaal> but i guess i can have svn retain file permissions by tweaking svn-client-side hooks: 1) pre-commit stores mode and ownership as svn properties, 2) post-update restores mode and ownership from the properties... could even publish that code then 17:28 * sakaal mumbles to himself. 17:28 < Tolls> [22:50:21] [sneakums]: you can also put that stuff in ~/.ssh/config and just do 'ssh host', check out 'man ssh_config' 17:28 < Tolls> i just put the .50 ip hard coded into sshd_config and removed the .10 ip, 17:29 < Tolls> and guess what i STILL show up as .10 when ircing 17:29 < Tolls> lol 17:29 < mikegrb> lolz 17:29 < Tolls> where else could it be hardcoded in? : / 17:29 < JDLSpeedy> the network config where u set into your server 17:30 < Tolls> i guess only linode admins can change that? 17:30 < JDLSpeedy> no, u said u have 2 IP's? correct? 17:30 < Tolls> yes 17:30 < mwalling_> ... 17:30 < JDLSpeedy> what distro u using? 17:30 < mwalling_> /set hostname 17:30 < Tolls> centos 17:30 < mwalling_> problem solved 17:32 < JDLSpeedy> ifconfig should have both of ur IP's correct? 17:32 -!- andrew_j_w [~andrew@88-97-29-168.dsl.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32 -!- cz9qvh [~dwarburto@wbtn.net] has joined #linode 17:33 -!- vsnine__ [~vsnine@dyn216-8-175-52.ADSL.mnsi.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33 < Tolls> yes it does 17:33 < Tolls> i just checked 17:33 < atourin1> thats a good question.. how do you specify which adapter to use for outgoing traffic? 17:34 < JDLSpeedy> Tolls, how did you add that second to your linode in centos? editing the ifcfg-eth0 file? 17:34 < mwalling_> atourin1: applications can select what interface to bind to 17:34 < Tolls> yes that's right JDLSpeedy 17:35 < JDLSpeedy> and u setup 2 IP's in that configuration, or just the 1? 17:35 < JDLSpeedy> I think its ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-eth0:1 17:36 < Tolls> i have those 2 files 17:36 < Tolls> ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-eth0:1 17:36 < atourin1> ahh ok 17:36 < atourin1> cool thanks mwalling :) 17:37 < JDLSpeedy> mwalling_: but Tolls is gaving that problem, heh 17:37 < JDLSpeedy> Tolls: swap IP in ifcfg-eth0 to ifcfg-eth0:1 and ifcfg-eth0:1 to ifcfg-eth0 and restart ur network 17:37 < Tolls> ok 17:37 < Tolls> will try ! 17:38 < JDLSpeedy> -b is binding to your local machine, not your remove machine 17:39 < JDLSpeedy> remote machine* 17:41 < Tolls> JDLSpeedy ok i did that 17:41 < Tolls> i think this should fix it 17:42 < Tolls> how do i "restart network" though? 17:42 < JDLSpeedy> service network restart 17:42 < Tolls> ok 17:45 -!- clanehin [~lane@cpe-069-134-066-130.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 17:46 -!- Tolls [~makaveli@69.60.110.96] has quit [Quit: brb restarting network] 17:54 -!- vs9|craptop [~vsnine@dyn216-8-149-233.ADSL.mnsi.net] has joined #linode 17:58 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@200.184.118.132] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:58 < peleg> Hey buddies, I have a little question: do you know what should I put in /etc/hostname file? Currently it is only "server". 17:59 < SpaceHobo> peleg: you put the hostname you want your server to have 17:59 < SpaceHobo> http://movealong.org/hostname.html <-- peleg 17:59 < JDLSpeedy> your basically naming your server :-D 17:59 < peleg> SpaceHobo: thanks, but what is "hostname"? - oh, I got your link 18:00 < peleg> I check and will come back, thanks! 18:00 < npmr> that url makes my client blink more often than people trying to get me 18:06 < peleg> SpaceHobo: Great document, thanks! :-) 18:08 < SpaceHobo> peleg: npmr wrote it, so you should direct all questions at him }:-)-* 18:09 -!- eean [~ian@216.146.251.4] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:11 < peleg> npmr: thanks, great text! 18:12 < npmr> you're welcome 18:14 < guinea-pig> oh man 18:14 < guinea-pig> npmr: that page displays horribly in IE6 18:14 < peleg> npmr: I have one question. currently I don't have the word "server" in /etc/hosts or in /etc/hostname, still the command hostname return server (and of course, the command hostname --fqdn return "unknown"...) 18:14 < guinea-pig> know any other pages that are horrible to look at in IE? 18:15 < peleg> guinea-pig: the more is better! :-) (just kidding) 18:15 < npmr> guinea-pig, ok 18:16 < guinea-pig> npmr: i'm assuming it's intentional 18:16 < npmr> peleg, what's it supposed to be? 18:17 < npmr> guinea-pig, ok 18:17 * npmr shrugs 18:17 < peleg> npmr: debi 18:17 < npmr> no one i know uses IE anyway 18:17 < npmr> peleg, as root, run the command "hostname debi" 18:18 < peleg> npmr: oh, changing it in the file is not enough? 18:18 < npmr> if you change it in the file, that will take effect on reboot 18:18 < peleg> npmr: (it worked) 18:18 < npmr> to make it happen now, either run that command or reboot 18:18 < peleg> npmr: I see, thanks. It also updates the file? 18:18 < npmr> ok 18:18 < npmr> no 18:19 < peleg> npmr: I see. so I do need to edit it in the file anyway, I guess. 18:19 < npmr> yes 18:19 < peleg> npmr: ok, thanks! 18:19 < npmr> what distribution are you using? 18:19 < peleg> npmr: debian (4?) 18:19 < npmr> ok, /etc/hostname is the right place, then 18:19 < peleg> good, thanks. 18:19 < npmr> np 18:28 -!- cruxeternus [~cruxetern@68-245-207-145.area3.spcsdns.net] has joined #linode 18:28 -!- vs9|craptop [~vsnine@dyn216-8-149-233.ADSL.mnsi.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29 -!- TheFirst [gaveup@your.friendly.neighborhood.hellmouth.info] has joined #linode 18:29 < cruxeternus> If I want to move my linode from Atlanta to Dallas, what's the easiest way to do that? I don't need to move any data or configuration, as I haven't really set anything up yet. Should I just cancel the current one and sign up for a new one, selecting Dallas? 18:36 < linbot> New news from forums: Apache Virtual Hosts Trouble in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum 18:36 < atourin1> just open a support ticket and the guys will move it for you, provided there are open spots for your plan in the new datacenter 18:37 < cruxeternus> atourin1: Ah, excellent... thanks! :) 18:37 < atourin1> np :) 18:44 < bd_> The time it'll take to do the move is proportional to the size of your disk images, so if you really don't have anything set up, you can delete the disk images to make it somewhat faster (though it should only take 10 minutes or so anyway) 18:45 < cruxeternus> Yeah, I already cleaned out the disk images and configuration profiles, so there's literally nothing there. 18:46 < cruxeternus> The only slight complication is that I want to be in Xen in Dallas too, if possible. 18:47 < Eman> best i can suggest is to open a ticket 18:49 < cruxeternus> Yeah, I went ahead and did that. 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Is someone familiar with the subject and can point me to the right troubleshooting documents? 20:12 < Funky-> whats the problem? 20:12 < mwalling_> what Funky- said... 20:12 < peleg> I connect with telnet smtp to check my installation 20:13 < peleg> everything goes ok, but the logs aren't 20:13 < peleg> warning: connect to transport dovecot: no such file or directory 20:14 < peleg> I am using the method of virtual users, not unix users 20:16 < peleg> Do you have any ideas? 20:16 < Funky-> when did this start happening? 20:16 < peleg> oh, just now: I have installed it today. it didn't work before. 20:17 < peleg> I have followed a very good tutorial carefully: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch 20:17 < peleg> I have debian 20:20 < Funky-> have you restarted postfix recently? 20:21 < peleg> I have found only 6 results in google for warning: "connect to transport dovecot": "no such file or directory" and most of them are pastebin or not in English 20:21 < peleg> I am not sure, actually. 20:21 < peleg> a minute, I will do it. 20:21 < mwalling_> peleg: #postfix on freenode 20:21 < mwalling_> the guy who runs workaround.org (Signum) is usually around there 20:21 < peleg> mwalling_: thanks! 20:22 < mwalling_> plus we have an infobot we abuse 20:28 < Funky-> :) 20:32 -!- Athenon [~Athenon@r74-192-74-240.vctrcmta01.vctatx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #linode 21:19 -!- hpj [~hpj@189.190.13.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28 < pfein> any other good channels on this server? 21:34 -!- fake_ [~fake@rrcs-72-43-24-86.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #linode 21:43 -!- phlaegel [~neh@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50 -!- l0uis_ [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has joined #linode 21:50 -!- l0uis_ [~l0uis@madmax.fitnr.com] has quit [] 22:11 < mwalling> peleg: debian is based on this network afaik 22:13 < internat85> sure is 22:13 < internat85> debian's on two networks actually 22:15 < guinea-pig> debian's on the moon 22:16 -!- atourino [~Antonio@201.218.81.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:17 < mwalling> irc.debian.org is an alias for irc.geo.oftc.net. 22:17 < JasonF> debian's primary channel is on oftc. 22:40 -!- Infinito [~argos@201-2-73-175.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:50 -!- metaperl_ [~metaperl@cpe-75-187-102-204.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #linode 22:54 -!- metaperl [~metaperl@cpe-75-187-102-204.insight.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:54 -!- metaperl_ is now known as metaperl 22:55 -!- CyberMonk [hacker@Chatter.Of.The.United.States.Of.America.Name] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56 -!- Geckom [~andrew@220.157.75.246] has joined #linode 22:57 < Geckom> caker: you around? 22:57 < Geckom> hrmm, anyone know what packages are available in Fremont, CA ? 22:58 < Geckom> !available 22:58 < mwalling> !avail-he 22:58 < linbot> mwalling: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 22:58 < guinea-pig> !avail-he 22:58 < linbot> guinea-pig: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 22:58 < guinea-pig> heh 22:59 < mwalling> guinea-pig: i win 22:59 < guinea-pig> looks like nothing's avialable 22:59 < mwalling> spacetube lag 22:59 < Geckom> damn 22:59 < guinea-pig> damn spacetubes 22:59 < mwalling> not for long 22:59 < guinea-pig> they all deserve to die 22:59 < Geckom> hrmm should i wait for one to come available? 23:01 -!- praetorian [~praetoria@124-168-131-146.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 23:02 -!- praetorian [~praetoria@124-168-129-138.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #linode 23:05 < internat85> !avail-au 23:05 < internat85> :( 23:06 < Geckom> !avail-he 23:06 < linbot> Geckom: Fremont360 - 0, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 23:06 < mwalling> i think you need to wait more then 7 minutes for one to become available 23:07 < Geckom> lol 23:07 < mikegrb> lolz 23:07 < Geckom> mwalling: so what you saying? 8minutes? 23:08 < mwalling> something like that 23:08 < Geckom> :) 23:08 < tasaro> !avail-he 23:08 < linbot> tasaro: Fremont360 - 1, Fremont540 - 0, Fremont720 - 0, Fremont1080 - 0, Fremont1440 - 0 23:08 < Geckom> woot 23:08 < linbot> New news from forums: rewrite is directing people to the wrong index page? in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum 23:09 < guinea-pig> apparantly 8 minutes works 23:10 < Geckom> oh i can run IRC from linode cant i? not ircd just irssi or something 23:10 < mwalling> yes to both 23:10 < Geckom> cooloo 23:11 < Geckom> hehe any promo codes? 23:16 < tasaro> none active at the moment 23:16 < Geckom> cool pro-rated :) saves me some cash 23:17 < Geckom> Thank you for submitting a membership application! 23:17 < Geckom> any admins around?? heheheh 23:17 < caker> Account Activated with an activation delay of 13 seconds :) 23:17 < caker> ^-- internal game we play 23:17 < tasaro> You were 2 seconds late. 23:17 < Geckom> nice, very happy with the service so far 23:17 < caker> tasaro: :-p 23:21 < Geckom> cool i think i'm done, just waiting on the host queue for the setup to finish 23:26 -!- Schroeder [1000@kntpin04-nas-02-s177.cinergycom.net] has joined #linode 23:36 < mwalling> hmm... what would cause my people to query dns on my linode for sites like www.pointandclickgames.com, hottestblogger.com, etc 23:36 < mwalling> i never see queries for stuff like google.com though 23:40 < Peng> Geckom: If no one else has said it, the Atlanta data center blocks port 6667. But other ports work, and 6667 is fine in the other DCs. 23:40 * Peng notices he's 20 minutes late. 23:41 < Aero187> hah 23:42 -!- Geckom [~andrew@220.157.75.246] has quit [] 23:50 -!- esoterik [~esoterik@178.90.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #linode 23:51 < bd_> mwalling: testing whether you have a poisonable DNS server, maybe? 23:52 < mwalling> hmm --- Log closed Thu Feb 07 23:59:00 2008